WTF tong CBCP na to, parang tang lang. Nakikialam sa RH bill? Malinaw naman siguro sa kanila ang separation of church and state tsaka na dapat no law should be passed respecting any religion.

Ano kaya ang gusto mangyari ng Catholic church? Sila na lang ang gobyerno natin?

I feel the same way. I cannot help but doubt that some church people start to act as if they are puppets of some higher authority...(not by our LORD CHRIST but) by politicians.

Personally, I am for the passing of RH bill. If using a condom is really an act of killing an innocent child, I would rather consent to it, than increase the chances of seeing fetus or abandoned child in a plastic bag. Seeing innocent street child grow to become criminals will be highly possible if people who cannot abstain are not allowed to assess contraceptives.

Thus, if the church finds the RH bill immoral, it should focus instead on educating their church members to practice abstinence. In doing so, the RH bill will be useless. No one will use the condoms or any contraceptive if everyone abstains. But, until absolute abstinence is achieved, an RH bill should be passed to remedy what is not achievable. RH bill is second best to the impossible.

To encourage the use of condom or any contraceptive is not the same as announcing, "buy them and use them." RH bill do not give incentives to the use, it only makes and teaches the user to act more responsible. RH bill does not teach elementary or high school students to engage in pre-marital sex, but those students who lack guidance (from their church or from their own family) can be saved from the predicament of having to face unwanted pregnancy if that bill is passed.

The church should face reality. There are those who cannot abstain. The next best solution is teach them to be responsible. This is the importance of RH BILL.

I expect that the RH bill will cater to those who cannot abstain, but who is not capable to face pregnancy.It is a solution to a scenario where people are prevented to add more burden to society by teaching them to be responsible.

Unless the church can guarantee a state comprising of people who can abstain from sex, I choose the passing of RH bill; it is the lesser evil!

You nailed every point lorenjay. Sa tingin ko wala na magawa masyado ang Catholic church. Catholic ako pero naman this meddling with the laws by the church is obviously way beyond their line na.

Matanong ko lang, may nasabi ba sa bible na bawal gumamit ng contraceptives?

@JaneDoe

I am also catholic. And, I always teach my children that we were borne embracing that religion; we will die clinging to it. But, I don’t really read the Bible that I really will admit I do not know the answer to your question: “may nasabi ba sa bible na bawal gumamit ng contraceptives?”


Nevertheless, it is my opinion, if we base solely on the BIBLE without considering the fact that when the BIBLE is being written, IUD, Condoms, Pills, and the like do not exist yet and the only acceptable method at that time were total abstinence or maybe, rhythm method (I am honestly making assumptions here) what maybe found written in the BIBLE will not correctly reflect if our LORD will accept or reject modern contraceptives.

In fact, I could not help but assume: if Jesus Christ is still with us, will he allow contraceptives? Or, if those modern methods had existed then when Jesus Christ was amongst us, walking on this earth, will he approve those modern methods?

Personally, I will answer it on the basis of conscience. If you feel that you are doing wrong, stop! You know Jesus will not allow it. But, if your conscience is clear, go for it. Anyway, GOD forgives.

NOTE: this is the reason why few lawyers go to heaven; they know that they can always appeal; they do not run out of procedural remedies. The trite motto of a lawyer: Just do it! Anyway you can ask for forgiveness later! LOL!

Just adding a few points.

I noticed that catholic schools instill (or literally brainwash) their students to reject RH bill. I have no right to question their means and ways of teaching; however, I am entitled to give my own opinion that for me, they are teaching their students not to become human.

What distinguish human being from animals? We have "freewill;" whereas, animals don't. As human, we are entitled to see every angles, regardless as to its effect on us, whether it be evil or good. Perceiving all factors that affects us is necessary for one to exercise that only thing that distinguish us from animals of the wild. Without that freewill, we are just like those animals.

God created man in his own image and with freewill. Removing from man what God has given, that is freewill, is creating another image or altering what God has created.

Please do not create humans without freewill, since that is not what God has created.

Catholic schools should expose their students as to what is the contents of RH bill. After teaching their students, with proper guidance, let these human beings decide for themselves, Let them exercise their freewill! Whether it is a YES or a NO, it is for them to decide; not for schools to dictate.

To teach and to say "NO to RH Bill," without teaching why, is creating another breed of humans... or rather puppet animals.

Thus, before saying No or Yes to RH Bill, please refer to link below:

www.likhaan.org/content/15th-congress-ho...ated-rh-bill-hb-4244